Discussion:
flamenco guitar tabs
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Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-03 12:40:23 UTC
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Hi,

I am an amateur flamenco guitarist, who tries to play solo pieces.
I have a severe problem with finding tabs for the many cool pieces
that I have on records by Sabicas, Paco Pena, and others (I can prepare
a list of the pieces if this might help). I know that flamenco is mostly
improvisation, but I am not that good to be able to learn the pieces
"by air". However, I am confident that I could learn many of them, if I
could have tabs. My question is: is there any place from which one can
download good quality tabs for flamenco guitar, or where one can order/buy
them? I stress that I am not looking for easy pieces or schools. What
I want is advanced, attractive pieces. Search on the web did not led me to
anything useful. I also have some published tabs, but here again I have a problem
with finding out what else has been published and where to find it.
Is there any way to convince the prominent flamenco guitarists to publish
everything they play? This would be great. So far only Juan Martin and
Paco de Lucia seem to have published some of their cool stuff.

Leslaw
Uffe
2008-06-04 10:52:55 UTC
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I have the "Toques Flamencos" cd/book by Paco Peña and a cd/book of
Niño Ricardo, tabs for Vicente Amigo compositions, Pepe Habichuela,
Gerardo Núñez.. and LOTS of other stuff... I got most of it from the
amorflamenco.com site and Emule or the library..

I can e-mail you Toques Flamencos if you like...

-Uffe
(Denmark)
Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-04 15:33:18 UTC
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I have the "Toques Flamencos" cd/book by Paco Pe?a and a cd/book of
Ni?o Ricardo, tabs for Vicente Amigo compositions, Pepe Habichuela,
Gerardo Nú?ez.. and LOTS of other stuff... I got most of it from the
amorflamenco.com site and Emule or the library..
I can e-mail you Toques Flamencos if you like...
-Uffe
(Denmark)
Hi, thanks for yor answer.

I have Toques Flamencos, thank you, but the pieces there are
rather uninteresting, with a few exceptions. I'd be happy to try
to play the pieces from Paco Pena's record "Paco Pena Flamenco Master",
for example the Zambra (piece 5) is superb. The other pieces in that
record are equally tempting. Is there any way to get the tabs for these?
As for Sabicas, I've been dreaming for years about "Castillo Moro" Zambra
(if I remember correctly the title now), and one of his versions of
Malaguena of Lecuona, recorded on an old vinyl plate in Australia (I can
check the number at home, if you don't know that). Sabicas also played
nicely one classical piece by Rimski-Korsakov, which was also pretty cool.
I am also in love with one Granadinas, performed by Rafael Cortes
(I think it's a kind of his favourite personal piece, which he plays for
bis, etc.) strangely there are almost no good Granadinas printed.
There is a lot of other wonderful pieces I have been dreaming of to play,
unfortunately I don't recall among their authors the names you mention...
What is "Emule"?

Leslaw
Uffe
2008-06-05 07:42:45 UTC
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I'll browse my files to see if I have some of the stuff you need.
Emule is a p2p filesharing program. Not illegal as such as long as you
respect copyright - a lot of the tabs available there are NOT illegal
to distribute to my knowledge. I have a lot of video files/ DVDs of
top flamenco players and some of them come with tab booklets (Tomatito
and some of the players mentioned above). I also have hundreds of tabs
and guitar pro files.. they are on a separate hard disk that I really
need to organize better...

Are you familiar with the Oscar Herrero DVDs? They are for both
beginners and more advanced players... just google him and you can
check them out (I have vol.1-3 on dvd and the rest as avi-files).

Anyway, I recommend trying out Emule. A bit confusing to setup but
once installed you have access to the largest collection of flamenco
studying material on the net!!

You mentioned Paco Peña, who I like too. Should you ever come across
tabs for his Tientos del Puerto (called Tientos de la Bahía in some
cases), PLEASE let me know. Here's a video link:


Or check out the players I mentioned on Youtube too.

Or check out this user: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rezarito
He does very nice transcriptions of Vicente Amigo and others and share
the tabs if you contact him.
Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-05 15:35:56 UTC
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Thanks, I'll check the sites you mention.
You mentioned Paco Pe?a, who I like too. Should you ever come across
tabs for his Tientos del Puerto (called Tientos de la Bahía in some
cases), PLEASE let me know. Here's a video link: http://youtu.be/P0x-AefwV4M
I don't recall having this piece. Apart from Toques Flamencos, I only have
his tabs for "Mantilla y peine", published by some Japanese, and I learned
this piece more or less correctly (I hope). This piece is also on the
"Paco Pena Flamenco Master" record.

Leslaw
Antony
2008-06-06 03:25:26 UTC
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There was another book published in Holland by one of Paco Pena's students
which had his Zambra Mora and an Alegrias de Cordoba.

"Leslaw Bieniasz" <***@cyf-kr.edu.pl> wrote in message news:***@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl...


Thanks, I'll check the sites you mention.
You mentioned Paco Pe?a, who I like too. Should you ever come across
tabs for his Tientos del Puerto (called Tientos de la Bahía in some
http://youtu.be/P0x-AefwV4M
I don't recall having this piece. Apart from Toques Flamencos, I only have
his tabs for "Mantilla y peine", published by some Japanese, and I learned
this piece more or less correctly (I hope). This piece is also on the
"Paco Pena Flamenco Master" record.

Leslaw
Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-06 08:13:56 UTC
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Post by Antony
There was another book published in Holland by one of Paco Pena's students
which had his Zambra Mora and an Alegrias de Cordoba.
What is the title of the book?

Leslaw
John J van Gool
2008-06-06 16:00:41 UTC
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The title is Paco Peña
ISBN number 90 6386 207 5.
Hope this helps
Regards,
--
John J van Gool, luthier
http://www.lutherie-van-gool.nl
Uffe
2008-06-06 21:36:43 UTC
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Try asking in the TAB forum of this site:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/foroflamenco_home.asp
Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-12 07:58:03 UTC
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Post by Uffe
http://www.foroflamenco.com/foroflamenco_home.asp
The TAB forum is not accessible to external visitors.

Leslaw
Uffe
2008-06-13 22:10:54 UTC
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True, you have to register first but it's no problem ;-)
Antony
2008-06-06 03:15:14 UTC
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Most of those Guitar Pro and Tabledit files are incorrect especially all
those done by one Nickolas Reimann which are full of mistakes.

"Uffe" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d1c8c407-6cd4-411c-bd76-***@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
I'll browse my files to see if I have some of the stuff you need.
Emule is a p2p filesharing program. Not illegal as such as long as you
respect copyright - a lot of the tabs available there are NOT illegal
to distribute to my knowledge. I have a lot of video files/ DVDs of
top flamenco players and some of them come with tab booklets (Tomatito
and some of the players mentioned above). I also have hundreds of tabs
and guitar pro files.. they are on a separate hard disk that I really
need to organize better...

Are you familiar with the Oscar Herrero DVDs? They are for both
beginners and more advanced players... just google him and you can
check them out (I have vol.1-3 on dvd and the rest as avi-files).

Anyway, I recommend trying out Emule. A bit confusing to setup but
once installed you have access to the largest collection of flamenco
studying material on the net!!

You mentioned Paco Peña, who I like too. Should you ever come across
tabs for his Tientos del Puerto (called Tientos de la Bahía in some
cases), PLEASE let me know. Here's a video link:
http://youtu.be/P0x-AefwV4M

Or check out the players I mentioned on Youtube too.

Or check out this user: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rezarito
He does very nice transcriptions of Vicente Amigo and others and share
the tabs if you contact him.
Leslaw Bieniasz
2008-06-06 12:33:20 UTC
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Hi,

I did some search on the web, and it seems to me now that
the ZAMBRA played by Paco Pena is actually a piece by Nino Ricardo.
So, this may be helpful in locating the tabs.

Leslaw
Antony
2008-06-06 13:40:05 UTC
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It's not exactly the same. The intro is actually a Carcelera which was a
song of the prisoners.
Post by Leslaw Bieniasz
Hi,
I did some search on the web, and it seems to me now that
the ZAMBRA played by Paco Pena is actually a piece by Nino Ricardo.
So, this may be helpful in locating the tabs.
Leslaw
Paul Magnussen
2008-07-02 16:15:37 UTC
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Post by Leslaw Bieniasz
Hi,
I did some search on the web, and it seems to me now that
the ZAMBRA played by Paco Pena is actually a piece by Nino Ricardo.
So, this may be helpful in locating the tabs.
There could be some confusion here: The Zambra on "Music of Montoya and
Ricardo" is by Ricardo, but Paco's most famous one, "Moruna", is based
on a song by Manolo Caracol. The latter is the one of which an abridged
version was published in Ad Rooymans's collection.

Paul Magnussen

Antony
2008-06-05 03:09:23 UTC
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Is this what you want?
http://www41.websamba.com/syncloveka/

Enjoy!
Post by Leslaw Bieniasz
Hi,
I am an amateur flamenco guitarist, who tries to play solo pieces.
I have a severe problem with finding tabs for the many cool pieces
that I have on records by Sabicas, Paco Pena, and others (I can prepare
a list of the pieces if this might help). I know that flamenco is mostly
improvisation, but I am not that good to be able to learn the pieces
"by air". However, I am confident that I could learn many of them, if I
could have tabs. My question is: is there any place from which one can
download good quality tabs for flamenco guitar, or where one can order/buy
them? I stress that I am not looking for easy pieces or schools. What
I want is advanced, attractive pieces. Search on the web did not led me to
anything useful. I also have some published tabs, but here again I have a problem
with finding out what else has been published and where to find it.
Is there any way to convince the prominent flamenco guitarists to publish
everything they play? This would be great. So far only Juan Martin and
Paco de Lucia seem to have published some of their cool stuff.
Leslaw
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